The original $180 price tag was what was scaring me off of these but finding refurbished for $80 bucks off pretty much sealed the deal for me. I have been a low to mid level Turtle Beach user for years, I got tired of the clamp force and weight on my head for longer sessions. I watched dozens of reviews for all kinds of different headsets and kept coming back to these. I game on PC coming from PS5 so I know it opened up my range of options but a big selling point for these to me was the dual connectivity. I can scroll youtube or social media while my game is loading and it will play both through the headphones at the same time. I can take or make phone calls, anything a Bluetooth beadset connected to your phone can do, all while still playing sound from my pc if I want. Another great feature is the chat mix. Sometimes it's difficult to juggle game sound or chat sound jumping in and out of a game or chat settings but there's a dial right on the headphones to be able to mute chat or game sound. They feel super light on my head and the clamp force is perfect to me. There is a rrally good range of adjustability. The quality is for sure upper level. The range is immense I can go anywhere in my house and still have connection. The Battery life is very good as well. If you're on the fence about them, watch a few youtube reviews and you will see a fair amount of people rate these near the top of range for the mid level wireless headphones. For the refurb price cut you can't really compare anything else in the $100 range. These are great value for the money.